tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8068873.post5024970755735826799..comments2024-02-14T01:50:56.112-06:00Comments on The OF Blog: So I see something has struck the fan in the past 48 hoursLarry Nolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16001420558511460998noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8068873.post-65847316264519008532013-09-18T10:40:51.153-05:002013-09-18T10:40:51.153-05:00I don't know...I don't control the squirre...I don't know...I don't control the squirrels. Only their mistress does. ;)<br /><br />But seriously, I think either a short mea culpa tweet or at least a reposting of what you said here on FBC (maybe in the comments of the Deas guest post?) directed toward them would be better received than just commenting here and having it look as though you were saying contrite words to myself while not exactly saying them to the persons most directly involved?Larry Nolenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001420558511460998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8068873.post-55354243785737059192013-09-18T08:27:30.736-05:002013-09-18T08:27:30.736-05:00@Larry,
Yes you didn't ask for my apology b...<br /> @Larry,<br /><br /> Yes you didn't ask for my apology but I thought to post it here as it had the best chance of being seen by Renay & Ana.<br /><br /> It definitely would be nicer to have a more direct resolution but at this point, I am not looking forward to another mud-slinging round. With this being here, I feel that those who want to read can do so & those who want to ignore can do so as well.<br /><br /> Plus I feel safer here among the squirrels ;)<br /><br /> Mihir<br /><br /> The Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01060590167867977158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8068873.post-80540895258077641522013-09-18T02:01:59.322-05:002013-09-18T02:01:59.322-05:00Couple of things, since I'm not quite as grogg...Couple of things, since I'm not quite as groggy now:<br /><br />Mulluane,<br /><br />I consider the signs and all odd precisely because I think having such visual signs pretty much admits a breakdown in the idea that forums could and should be a civil marketplace of ideas. Furthermore, such a thing just seems to simplify too much the complex system of human interactions we have in all facets of our lives. No sign or even brief little "policy" will cover everything. Sometimes, discretion should be the value upheld the most.<br /><br />Mihir,<br /><br />To whom are you apologizing? I don't need it; I just merely noted that the behavior of many could have been better. Perhaps it would be best if you directed this to the persons with whom you and Gav were involved the other day? It'd be nicer if there were a more direct resolution than having me be a go-between, to be honest.Larry Nolenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001420558511460998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8068873.post-67944282499412039002013-09-17T15:57:23.435-05:002013-09-17T15:57:23.435-05:00Hi Larry,
Thanks for this follow-up post & si...Hi Larry,<br /><br />Thanks for this follow-up post & since I'm one of those who participated in those "discussions". I must admit there was some daftness involved.<br /> <br />My main issue of consternation was with the comments, and that included everyone. Did Ana & Renay fit into this? Surely because they're linked by the column (which Renay wrote) and the original review discussion that Ana wrote. But when I said that this behavior was despicable, it was made to include the comments sections as a whole.<br /><br />That it devolved the way it did on twitter, I'm repentant for I was part of it. I stand by denouncing how the author was treated when he entered the discussion in both cases and regardless of how I feel about Ana & Renay's interaction with the author, the vile, nasty, and repulsive emails she (Renay) apparently received is uncalled for. And for that or for being part of what led this to happening, my unreserved apologies. No one should have to deal with such vitriol.<br /><br />As for bullying, well I think we just have different interpretations about the meaning. So I'm entirely comfortable in retracting that part as I feel that there was a distinct lack of empathy and civility shown and unnecessary rudeness combined with intimidation (all of which in combination correlates to bullying IMHO, but at this point I'm willing to let it go) towards the author. And I take this opportunity once again to point out this includes everyone that participated in an uncouth manner in those comments. Renay and Ana weren't meant to be singled out to carry the burden, but it doesn't excuse their behavior either.<br /><br />What truly curdles my mind is that these commentators were not even trying to consider the other person's train of thought. It's more like "you disagreed with my opinion and so you are wrong." period. That & the intimidation, I believe are the issues which Gav & I tried to redress. <br /><br />At this point though I'm not angry any more but simply disappointed. I've always tried to be civil with folks who try to look at the issue at hand without first pointing fingers. So I'll stop now & say it was my fault that I wasn't as civil as I could have been.<br /><br />Mihir<br />The Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01060590167867977158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8068873.post-7926646945417051942013-09-17T04:19:55.187-05:002013-09-17T04:19:55.187-05:00I don't see the signs as odd. I personally thi...I don't see the signs as odd. I personally think having a comment policy is a good idea since opinions vary so wildly.<br /><br />None of us are mind readers. Clarifying where you stand on the issue in regards to your own blog(s) seems to me like a good way to avoid misunderstandings later.<br /><br />Then if anybody crosses your line, whatever that line may be, you can point to your policy and politely inform them that they are no longer welcome in your comment thread.<br /><br />But that is my opinion and I respect your right to consider it as odd. :)Mulluanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01525878564470398696noreply@blogger.com